After reading my previous post saying:
NOT ONE SINGLE CHILD WHILE AT 3ABN, OR AT ANY ADVENTIST SCHOOL CHURCH, GROUNDS, FACILITY OR WHILE ATTENDING FUNCTIONS AND PROGRAMS ECT AT THOSE, AND NOT ONE PARENT OF ANY CHILD WHO HAS EVER BEEN AT 3ABN OR IS A MEMBER OF THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH (OR ANY OF THE ABOVE), HAS EVER MADE ONE SINGLE ALLEGATION OR ACCUSATION, OR EVEN AN INSINUATION OF WRONG DOING AGAINST TOMMY SHELTON CONCERNING THEIR CHILD, MUCH LESS ACCUSED HIM OF MOLESTATION OR SEXUAL ABUSE.
someone asked me, "But, what about Alex Walker and Dennis Turley's settlement demands and threats of a civil suit against 3ABN due to their allegations against Tommy?"
Alex Walker is apparently now claiming he was also abused as a teenager at 3ABN, but how DS or 3ABN is being blamed for what they allege occurred to Turley in Virginia while TS lived there and was being the Pastor of the Church of God there hasn't yet been adequately explained....
According to all the news releases and court documents and publicly available information,prior to this johnny come lately allegation by Alex, no incidents were alleged to have occurred at 3ABN before this threatened civil suit:
court document wrote:all occasions alleged by Mr. Walker, except for one, took place near a bike path in Fairfax County. (See id.) According to the testimony, Mr. Walker’s brother would leave him alone with Mr. Shelton during visits to the brother’s Virginia home. (Prelim. Hr’g Tr. at 27.)The other, alleged for the first time at the preliminary hearing, apparently occurred in a church kitchen. (Id. at 31.) However, no details of that account were provided."
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Note: Of course when Brad Walker said in the court document that he would testify that he never left Alex alone with Mr Shelton, the accusers said well that doesn't mean blah blah blah... and began to suggest 'well, it could have happened here or there, blah blah blah..." Whatever.. the point is Alex already made his claims about where and when it occurred,and it's a bit late in the game to keep changing his story. The main point of BW and VW's statements was to rebut Alex Walker's statement that he was left alone with TS by his brother. Both will testify that Alex didn't tell the truth about this, and of course there are others who were there in the time and places alleged who can testify as well, including both Tommy and Carol. The prosecutor already testified in court that neither Dennis Turley or Alex Walker have any corroborating witnesses, while Tommy does have witnesses to testify positively on his behalf]
First it was alleged Alex Walker was molested
in Virginia at age 8 or 9.
Fairfax County Police Department
Public Information Office
4100 Chain Bridge Road, Fairfax, Va. 22030
703-246-2253. TTY 703-204-2264. Fax 703-246-4253
FCPD-PIO@fairfaxcounty.gov
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police
News Release: 08/080/2600/BW/(3)
March 18, 2010
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases...
McLean Police District – On Tuesday, March 16, Tommy Shelton, 64, of 9090 State Route 91N, Marion, Kentucky, turned himself into Fairfax County Police detectives. Shelton was charged with two counts of aggravated sexual battery, two counts of indecent liberties with a minor, and sodomy.
From 1995 to 2000, Shelton was the pastor for the Community Church of God at 2500 Gallows Road, Dunn Loring. In March 2008, a 27-year-old man contacted police to report that he had been molested by Shelton when he was 12 to 14 years old.
In November of 2008, a 22-year-old man contacted police to report that he had been molested by Shelton when he was 8 to 9 years old.
Following an extensive investigation, detectives secured warrants for Shelton in February 2010.
It appears that since multiple family members of Alex Walker have now testified that he lied about Tommy being part of his growing up years and ingraining himself into Alex's personal life etc.. and that Alex was never even around or near TS at age 8 or 9, or during his growing up years and childhood; his allegation and testimony is now that he was molested in Virginia at 11 yrs old which is the one time he was near Tommy Shelton:
Washington Post Friday, March 18, 2010
Tommy Shelton, 64, was the pastor of Community Church of God at 2500 Gallows Rd. in the Dunn Loring area, from 1995 to 2000, police said. In 2008, two men approached Fairfax police and reported that they had been sexually assaulted by Shelton. One man said he had been molested when he was 12 to 14 years old, and the other man said he was 8 to 9 years old when he was molested, police said.
Washington Post Friday, May 7, 2010
Two men who say they were molested by former pastor Tommy Shelton when he oversaw a church in Fairfax County in the 1990s testified Thursday that Shelton abused them when he was alone with them...The second witness, 24, said Shelton molested him in 1997, when he was 11. He said that he would go on bicycle rides with Shelton and that Shelton would direct him into a wooded area and fondle him.
Washington Post Tuesday, July 20, 2010
The other man also testified in May. He said that when he was 11, he and Shelton would go for bike rides and that Shelton would direct him into the woods and fondle him. [added] Stott said that on one occasion, Shelton molested the boy in the kitchen of the Community Church of God on Gallows Road.
We also have this from the court document submitted in the sentencing hearing:
Alex Walker, a victim in this case, has made several documented inconsistent statements. In November 2008, Mr. Walker gave a report to Detective Pirnat. In that report, he stated that “on five to six occasions,” Mr. Shelton “touch[ed] his penis over his clothing.” (Commonwealth’s Resp. to Def’s. Req. for Disc.) (Emphasis added).
Just a month later in December 2008, Mr. Walker gave another report to Chief Pusey of the Oblong, Illinois Police Department. In that report, he again stated that Mr. Shelton touched “him in the penis area on the outer path [sic] of his clothing.” (Id.) (Emphasis added). Mr. Walker added that this took place “four or five times.” (Id.) (Emphasis added). He also stated that, “at no point did Shelton ask him or force him to touch him in any way.” (Id.)
However, at the preliminary hearing in May 2010, Mr. Walker’s account was significantly different. On direct examination, he stated that Mr. Shelton would touch his penis “under” his clothing by “stroking and rubbing . . . through the zipper.” (Prelim. Hr’g Tr. at 29-30.)1 He stated that this occurred “three or four” times. (Id. at 31.) (Emphasis added).
Then, in his “Victim Impact Statement” contained in the Presentence Investigation Report prepared for this case, Mr. Walker, for the first time, graphically describes an incident when Mr. Shelton, “forced himself upon me . . . groped my genitals, masturbated me, and then masturbated himself until he ejaculated onto me.” At no point prior to this statement did Mr. Walker describe any use of “force” or any similar sexual acts.
In addition, all occasions alleged by Mr. Walker, except for one, took place near a bike path in Fairfax County. (See id.) According to the testimony, Mr. Walker’s brother would leave him alone with Mr. Shelton during visits to the brother’s Virginia home. (Prelim. Hr’g Tr. at 27.) The other, alleged for the first time at the preliminary hearing, apparently occurred in a church kitchen. (Id. at 31.) However, no details of that account were provided.
The problems with Mr. Walker’s credibility are readily apparent, and his erratic and inconsistent statements would be subject to attack at trial. “A witness may be impeached by showing that he has made statements inconsistent with his trial testimony. Both oral and written contradictory statements are normally admissible for this purpose.” Bradshaw v. Commonwealth, 16 Va. App. 374, 381, 429 S.E.2d 881, 885 (Va. Ct. App. 1993) (internal citations omitted).
In each of the preceding statements by Mr. Walker, the number of alleged occasions decreases, while the level of detail and depravity of his allegations increases. His most gruesome allegations are conspicuously absent from both of his initial reports to police. Mr. Walker’s glaring lack of credibility is a major piece of exculpatory evidence. This fact was acknowledged by the Commonwealth in its Brady disclosure contained in its Response to Defendant’s Request for Discovery, which was turned over to the defense shortly after the preliminary hearing.
Not mentioned above, maybe they didn't have it, is Alex's first statement in which he said:
"On a few of these occasions I was touched in umproper places by Tommy Shelton. These occurrences were perpetrated either at the church of God in Virginia where Tommy pastored or on bike routes where Tommy thought no one was looking. NEVER was there any sexual penetration of any sort just "TOUCHING" where Tommy touched me and asked me to do the same to him"
As previously commented on here, the commonwealth attorney/prosecutor has already testified that among her reasons for accepting the plea bargain in the criminal case were
"the only evidence would be the two men's testimony about the events of 15 years ago." and:
" There were no corroborating witnesses or forensic evidence. There was no confession; Shelton's plea could not be used against him. The victims made inconsistent statements. Shelton would have witnesses testify positively about him. The events happened about 15 years ago. Juries want forensic evidence, and they don't want any doubt before convicting a pastor of a sex offense."
But my main point here is, as you can see, that there is no mention in any of Alex Walker's previous statements and testimony of any abuse or molestation as a teenager or any alleged incidents outside of Virginia, or his one visit there, much less at 3ABN.
How this will be explained away, or glossed over is anyone's guess...
This, however, from Alex Walker's victim impact statement, is a lie:
“When I contacted the Fairfax county police and reported what had occurred to me,[November 2008 according to the police]
I had not yet been able to talk of this with anyone.”
Unlike adventtalk, we don't say things are lies, or call people liars here without the evidence and proof to back it up. So, how do we deduce that Alex Walker is once again lying?
Again, from the public information and evidence:
Affidavit of Robert Pickle, filed Feb 26, 2010 wrote: Attached hereto as Exhibit F is a statement we received from Alex Walker. ("Walker"), brother of Tommy Shelton's son-in-law. Walker first contacted us on June 5, 2007.
June 5, 2007 is a year and 1/2 before November 2008. Alex had not only talked to Pickle before he contacted the Fairfax county police causing Pickle to salivate and begin posting endlessly all over the internet about an 8 yr old victim in Virginia, but he later gave him a statement as well.
Here's an early post about that from Pickle on BSDA, just a week after he claims Alex contacted him:
Pickle post Jun 12 2007, 04:50 PM
http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.ph ... t&p=199683
Steffan,
Maybe you can help me on a few items.
I just heard that the number of underage victims from Virginia has gone from 1 to 3, and I've finally gotten a name of one of those and have some correspondence from him. Do Tommy and Danny have any plans for trying to make things right before the child molestation part of the scandal grows any bigger? Especially since, I believe, Virginia doesn't have a statute of limitations for things like this?
Alex Walker also gave Pickle and Joy a statement a year before he talked to the Fairfax police in November of 2008. The statement is dated
December 10, 2007:
Quoting only the part which has to do with what, where, when, why, and how:
Subject: My STATEMENT!
From: Alex Walker
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:45:06 -0800 (PST)
To:
WebMaster@Save3ABN.com
Bob and Galion,
Here is my statement. It has taken me a while to come up with the courage to write this...Back in the summer of 1997, I spent some time in Virginia with my brother, while my brother and sister in law was attending classes to possibly adopt. There was a few occasions where I was left under the care of Pastor Tommy and Sister Carol Shelton. On a few of these occasions I was touched in umproper places by Tommy Shelton. These occurrences were perpetrated either at the church of God in Virginia where Tommy pastored or on bike routes where Tommy thought no one was looking.
NEVER was there any sexual penetration of any sort just "TOUCHING" where Tommy touched me and asked me to do the same to him....
His entire earliest written statement can be read here:
http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/index. ... 918.0.html
Pickle held on to this and never published or revealed it for 2 yrs and 2 mos, and filed a motion in the dismissed lawsuit seeking to add it in court for the first time on February 26, 2010, only one day after the warrants with the 5 felony accounts was issued for the arrest of Tommy Shelton on February 25, 2010, but the filing was a day before this, it says:
Signed and sealed this 24th day of February, 2010.
/s/ Bob Pickle
Bob Pickle
Halstad, MN 56548
Tel: (218) 456-2568
Subscribed and sworn to me
this 24th day of February, 2010.
/s/ Lori J. Rufsvold
Notary Public—Minnesota
Coincidence? maybe... but even though the current case in Virginia had nothing to do with the lawsuit, Pickle and Joy also filed another motion in the dismissed case attempting to also file the warrants for TS, but Judge Rya W. Zobel's ENDORSED ORDER confirmed that. He denied both their motions stating "these documents are irrelevant to the issues on appeal".
Anyway, Pickle appears to be in this up to his neck, and contrary to his claims Alex was quite able to talk, and did prior to talking to the Fairfax county police. Strangely, imo, he did not choose to go to his family, the Church of God, the police, or any county or state agency as most victims would, nor did he contact Tommy Shelton even via a lawyer. He chose to contact Gailon Joy and Bob Pickle,self proclaimed critics and accusers of 3ABN who don't have any title, authority or ability to bring resolution or justice for any so called victim. All they have imo is the ability to butt into other people's business, and demand answers with their chests filled with pride, and their boasts and threats of making those they accuse pay, and their big but empty talk of lawsuits and settlements...
Now we all know Pickle runs around night and day being the accuser of DS and 3ABN, and is obsessed with the whole sexual abuse and pedophile subject and brings it up in almost every other topic ad nauseum, and has done so for years.
Yet not once, that I can recall or find, in the 3 1/2 yrs since he claims Alex contacted him, has he even once implied that he had a statement from one minor claiming he was abused or molested by TS while
at 3ABN. The only thing Pickle has ever alluded to or mentioned is Derrell Mundall's (an adult), accusation which was retracted and apologized for by Mundall himself after it was investigated at 3ABN, and which his ex-wife even came to believe was a lie.
All of the above and some more causes me to find this 3abn allegation suspicious and questionable.