We Want Proof

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Donna
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We Want Proof

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Misconceptions abound when it comes to what is verifiable and can be proved and lies repeated based on false accusations and rumors. Why people cannot reason out the difference is beyond me unless they just choose to be blind and happy with that. They are just not happy with the decisions made pertaining to that proof. In other words it just doesn't match up with the lies they have been told. Are we to believe that any ole Joe Schmo on the street can go to the IRS, auditing firms, bank records, church boards, 3ABN board, counselor's records, and professional people who met with the individuals involved and demand and expect proof of that which formed their decisions. Quite frankly it is none of our business. No one of us would want anyone to be able to delve into our personal lives like that. That very reason is why we do have boards, and accountable professionals who are held responsible to make pertinant decisions and to assure a person's privacy. All those who saw the evidence were those who actually needed to have seen it and the only ones who should have seen it.

On the other hand we have a few who continue to repeat lies based upon false accusations and rumors and have absolutely no proof other than what someone told them. They would rather have us believe that the IRS, auditors, church board, 3ABN board, counselors, judges, lawyers and etc. are somehow in cahoots and entirely wrong while they, a small group of disgruntled persons, are the only ones who know the truth. Ask yourself, on what proof of evidence is their truth based? More than likely no proof is ever given. It is usually just a quote of something that one of them said before, some "source" who told them something or someone who says they witnessed such and such yet keeps telling the story differently depending upon what serves their best purpose. In actuality most of them do not know anything and never have been a witness to anything at 3ABN.

LS demanded that evidence against her be shown to the public. My opinion on this is that she knew she could count on the ethics and christian love of those who made the decisions pertaining to her. They would not show all, to all, out of love for her, hoping and praying she would turn around and make a choice to her own saving.

Donna
"Most startling messages will be borne by men of God's appointment, messages of a character to warn the people, to arouse them. And while some will be provoked by the warning, and led to resist the light and evidence, we are to see from this that we are giving the testing message for this time." Evangelism, p. 168.
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Re: We Want Proof

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We want others to prove what they state and write and some do, quoting public writings, pacer documents, etc. Some others do not, basing their proof on what they have heard, what someone told them or some story they have concocted in their own heads because it fits in with their agenda. The latter then keeps repeating the same rumors and false accusations.

We are admonished to " Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1Th. 5:21 I appreciate those who search out and show proof. It shows that they not only seek truth but care about those who have been or are being sucked into believing lies. I know it is a lot easier to put our trust in someone and believe all they say but it is not for our good or theirs. It also may do great harm to many others. In the end we are each going to be held responsible for what we have said and done. Even those things we consider small will be judged.

Cindi Clyne was not disbarred and to say that is to besmurch her good name; character assasination.

Cindy Conard Ford.....are you sure that is her name?

Is anyone sure of anything they say they believe?

My hope and prayer for the New Year is that each will come to know who our Lord Jesus Christ is, what He taught through word and example and that by beholding Him we become like Him.

Donna
"Most startling messages will be borne by men of God's appointment, messages of a character to warn the people, to arouse them. And while some will be provoked by the warning, and led to resist the light and evidence, we are to see from this that we are giving the testing message for this time." Evangelism, p. 168.
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